The Mesopotamian Tradition and the Necronomicon

Warlock is back again, with more thoughts:

First, I can’t understand how any of you guys can actually say that a worker of the Simon Necronomico is in no way shape or form practicing some of the rituals as they were performed in Ancient Mesopotamia. For examplE, DAN HARMS wrote this article back in April:

https://danharms.wordpress.com/2009/04/14/skull-incantation-bowls/

aren’t these bowls, of which incantations are dead over, the same thing as the Aga mass ssaratu in the Simon Necronomicon? What i mean is that they serve the same purpose. So using the Aga mass ssaratu is following a custom that was done in Ancient Mesopotamia.

Warlock’s got me there.  I mean, the uses are just the same.  Aside from the Mesopotamians writing incantations on their bowls.  And them turning them upside down.  And burying them under their houses.  And not, to my recollection, burning incense in them, which I’m assuming would leave scorch marks on the pottery.

That’s not to say that some Mesopotamians didn’t use bowls in which to burn incense, but it seems to be a very low bar to jump over.  It might also indicate that someone really isn’t interested in exploring an issue more broadly and is only trying to win an argument – that is, if Warlock hadn’t established that I’m the one who does that, not him.

Warlock continues:

Although some critics of the SN try to align its practices with Western Ceremonial practices we can see that these Ancient Mesopotamian rituals of using ‘incantation bowls, calling a fire god, and etc, are not found in Golden Dawn, Enochian, or the Key od Solomon, but they are found in the Simon Necronomicon, and to dismiiss the Simon Necronomicon as not being a vehicle to re-establish some of the rites an opinion that is purely ignorant! You can see thastsome of the words, spells and rituals are indeed what people in Ancient Mesopotamia were practicing at the time.

The other day, I saw a video of a Wiccan practitioner chanting Hebrew words as part of a ceremony.  I respect that – magic is the sort of knowledge that rapidly travels between cultures and faiths – but I don’t think he could call himself Jewish and find that generally accepted.  That’s the sort of argument that, from what I can see, Warlock and the gatewalkers want to make.  Their criteria are superficial – picking up bits of incantations and a Mesopotamian god-name or two, and trumpeting that one is walking a “Mesopotamian path.”  It’s a very easy argument to turn on its head – I could also say that, because Warlock is not sacrificing dozens of sheep in a temple, he’s not an authentic Mesopotamian shaman.

The path of deciding who’s “authentic” and who’s not in spiritual traditions is a tricky one.  Nonetheless, I’d expect someone who was in a “Mesopotamian tradition” to concentrate less on sheep or fragments of incantation, and concentrate more on what the nature of the gods and spirits are, the obligations and rights of humanity, and the ramifications of those in both the cosmic sphere and everyday life – in other words, looking at the grand picture instead of a word here and an incantation there.  For the most part, the Gatewalking movement seems completely uninterested in such questions, looking only at the sources Simon himself used and then crowing when they find some minor connection.  This is why I do not consider gatewalking to be a genuine continuation of the Mesopotamian tradition.

Published in: on August 1, 2009 at 12:06 am  Comments (3)  

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  1. I understand what your saying Harms. I agree with some of the things that you mentioned in your posts. i will respond back shortly with something that I think connects Lovecravt with Simon for sure. Thanks Dan

  2. Don’t worry Dan I mentioned you in the article:

    http://warlockasylum.wordpress.com/2009/08/03/keys-to-the-ancient-ones-part-9-discovering-the-atlantean-necronomicon/

    Be Well

  3. […] by Thoth in these Tablets that we derive the Simon Necronomicon’s deity AZAG-THOTH. I wonder Dan Harmshas ever made this same observation, since he is a big critique of the Tome and our spiritual […]


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