Darrick Dishaw’s Cult of Cthulhu Bible and Wikipedia: The Similarities

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To make a long story short, I pointed out these similarities, not to mention the book’s advocacy of ritual murder and male supremacy.  Darrick claimed that he had taken this material from a number of different sources, which the chart below showed wasn’t the case.  He then accused me of changing Wikipedia to reflect his book, apparently being unaware of Wikipedia’s “history” function.   Then he switched tactics and went around the Internet posting that I was gay.  Next, he pretended that he’d done his research years before, and that the Wikipedia entry had somehow evolved over hundreds of edits to look just like his book.  The next theories were that I had super-user privileges on Wikipedia, or that I had conspired with one of his friends to get a preview copy.  Months later, he actually admitted that he did take material from Wikipedia, claiming he’d just forgotten to cite it.  The most recent account is that not citing your sources isn’t plagiarism and that he didn’t claim credit for that particular chapter, just for the whole book, so it’s all okay.

Cult of Cthulhu Bible Wikipedia Article (as of 1/8/07)
Cthulhu (other spellings: Kutulu, Ktulu, Cthulu, Kthulhut, Thu Thu, Tulu, and many others) is a fictional entity createdby horror author H.P. Lovecraft. Cthulhu is often preceded by the epithet Great, Dead, or Dread. Cthulhu (other spellings: Kutulu, Ktulu, Cthulu, Kthulhut, Thu Thu, Tulu [1], and many others) is a fictional entity created by horror author H.P. Lovecraft. [2] Cthulhu is often preceded by the epithet Great, Dead, or Dread.
Lovecraft transcribed the pronunciation of Cthulhu as “Khlûl’hloo” or “Kathooloo” S.T. Joshi points out, however, that Lovecraft gave several differing pronunciations on different occasions. According to Lovecraft, however, this is merely the closest that the human vocal apparatus can come to reproducing the syllables of an alien language. Lovecraft transcribed the pronunciation of Cthulhu as “Khlûl’hloo” or “Kathooloo” [3] S. T. Joshi points out, however, that Lovecraft gave several differing pronunciations on different occasions.[4] According to Lovecraft, however, this is merely the closest that the human vocal apparatus can come to reproducing the syllables of an alien language.[5]
Cthulhu debuted in Lovecraft’s short story “The Call of Cthulhu” (1928) — though he makes minor appearances in a few of Lovecraft’s other works. August Derleth used the creature’s name to describe the system of lore employed by Lovecraft and his literary successors, the Cthulhu Mythos. Cthulhu debuted in Lovecraft’s short story “The Call of Cthulhu” (1928) — though he makes minor appearances in a few other of Lovecraft’s works.
[6] August Derleth used the creature’s name to describe the system of lore employed by Lovecraft and his literary successors, the Cthulhu Mythos.
Cthulhu has been referenced on dozens of occasions in many media forms. It has gained a camp status among science fiction and horror fans, and is today often referred to jokingly as a stand-in for ultimate terror or evil.
The most detailed descriptions of Cthulhu in “The Call of Cthulhu” are based on statues of the creature. One, constructed by an artist after a series of disturbing nightmares, is said to have “yielded simultaneous pictures of an octopus, a dragon, and a human caricature…. A pulpy, tentacled head surmounted a grotesque and scaly body with rudimentary wings.” Another, recovered by police from a raid on a murderous cult, “represented a monster of vaguely anthropoid outline, but with an octopus-like head whose face was a mass of feelers, a scaly, rubbery-looking body, prodigious claws on hind and fore feet, and long, narrow wings behind.” The most detailed descriptions of Cthulhu in “The Call of Cthulhu” are based on statues of the creature. One, constructed by an artist after a series of baleful dreams, is said to have “yielded simultaneous pictures of an octopus, a dragon, and a human caricature…. A pulpy, tentacled head surmounted a grotesque and scaly body with rudimentary wings.”[7] Another, recovered by police from a raid on a murderous cult, “represented a monster of vaguely anthropoid outline, but with an octopus-like head whose face was a mass of feelers, a scaly, rubbery-looking body, prodigious claws on hind and fore feet, and long, narrow wings behind.” [8]

When the creature finally appears in the story, it’s said that the “Thing cannot be described”, but it is called “the green, sticky spawn of the stars”, with “flabby claws” and an “awful squid-head with writhing feelers”. The phrase “a mountain walked or stumbled” gives a sense of the creature’s scale.

When the creature finally appears in the story, it’s said that the “Thing cannot be described”, but it is called “the green, sticky spawn of the stars”, with “flabby claws” and an “awful squid-head with writhing feelers”. The phrase “a mountain walked or stumbled” gives a sense of the creature’s scale.
[9]
Cthulhu is depicted as having a worldwide cult centered in Arabia, with followers in regions as far-flung as Greenland, Louisiana, and New Zealand. There are leaders of the cult “in the mountains of China” who are said to be immortal. Cthulhu is described by some of these cultists as the “great priest” of “the Great Old Ones who lived ages before there were any men, and who came to the young world out of the sky.”
Cthulhu is depicted as having a worldwide cult centered in Arabia, with followers in regions as far-flung as Greenland, Louisiana, and New Zealand.
[10]
There are leaders of the cult “in the mountains of China” who are said to be immortal. Cthulhu is described by some of these cultists as the “great priest” of “the Great Old Ones who lived ages before there were any men, and who came to the young world out of the sky.”
[11]
The cult is noted for chanting its “horrid phrase or ritual: Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn”, which translates as “In his house at R’lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.” This is often shortened to “Cthulhu fhtagn”, which appears to mean “Cthulhu waits” or “Cthulhu dreams”.
The cult is noted for chanting its “horrid phrase or ritual: Ph’nglui mglw’nafh Cthulhu R’lyeh wgah’nagl fhtagn”, which translates as “In his house at R’lyeh dead Cthulhu waits dreaming.”
[12] This is often shortened to “Cthulhu fhtagn”, which appears to mean “Cthulhu waits” or “Cthulhu dreams”. [13]
One cultist, known as Old Castro, provides the most elaborate information given in Lovecraft’s fiction about Cthulhu. The Great Old Ones, according to Castro, had come from the stars to rule the world in ages past. One cultist, known as Old Castro, provides the most elaborate information given in Lovecraft’s fiction about Cthulhu. The Great Old Ones, according to Castro, had come from the stars to rule the world in ages past.
“They were not composed altogether of flesh and blood. They had shape…but that shape was not made of matter. When the stars were right, They could plunge from world to world through the sky; but when the stars were wrong, They could not live. But
although They no longer lived, They would never really die. They all lay in stone houses in Their great city of R’lyeh, preserved by the spells of mighty Cthulhu for a glorious resurrection when the stars and the earth might once more be ready for them.”
“They were not composed altogether of flesh and blood. They had shape…but that shape was not made of matter. When the stars were right, They could plunge from world to world through the sky; but when the stars were wrong, They could not live. But although They no longer lived, They would never really die. They all lay in stone houses in Their great city of R’lyeh, preserved by the spells of mighty Cthulhu for a glorious resurrection when the stars and the earth might once more be ready for them.”[14]
Castro points to the “much-discussed couplet” from Abdul
Alhazred’s Necronomicon:
Castro points to the “much-discussed couplet” from Abdul Alhazred’s Necronomicon:
That is not dead which can eternal lie.
And with strange aeons even death may die.
That is not dead which can eternal lie.
And with strange aeons even death may die.
[15]
Castro explains the role of the Cthulhu Cult: When the stars have come right for the Great Old Ones, “some force from outside must serve to liberate their bodies. The spells that preserved Them intact likewise prevented them from making an initial move.” At the proper time, Castro explains the role of the Cthulhu Cult: When the stars have come right for the Great Old Ones, “some force from outside must serve to liberate their bodies. The spells that preserved Them intact likewise prevented them from making an initial move.”[16] At the proper time,
“the secret priests would take great Cthulhu from His tomb to
revive His subjects and resume His rule of earth….Then mankind
would have become as the Great Old Ones; free and wild
and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside
and all men shouting and killing and reveling in joy. Then the
liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill
and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame
with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom.”
“the secret priests would take great Cthulhu from His tomb to revive His subjects and resume His rule of earth….Then mankind would have become as the Great Old Ones; free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and killing and revelling in joy. Then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom.”[17]
Castro reports that the Great Old Ones are telepathic and “knew all that was occurring in the universe”. They were able to communicate with the first humans by “moulding their dreams”, thus establishing the Cthulhu Cult, but after R’lyeh had sunk beneath the waves, “the deep waters, full of the one primal mystery through which not even thought can pass, had cut off the spectral intercourse.” Castro reports that the Great Old Ones are telepathic and “knew all that was occurring in the universe”. They were able to communicate with the first humans by “moulding their dreams”, thus establishing the Cthulhu Cult, but after R’lyeh had sunk beneath the waves, “the deep waters, full of the one primal mystery through which not even thought can pass, had cut off the spectral intercourse.”[18]
It may in truth be said that no one knows the plans of Great Cthulhu or any of the other Old Ones and Outer Gods, as their minds are as strange and twisted as their bodies. [This was present in an earlier version of the Wikipedia entry. – Dan] Elsewhere in Lovecraft’s Fiction
Cthulhu makes several cameo appearances elsewhere in Lovecraft’s fiction, sometimes described in ways that appear to contradict information given in “The Call of Cthulhu”. For example, rather than including Cthulhu among the Great Old Ones, a quotation from the Necronomicon in “The Dunwich Horror” says of the Old Ones, “Great Cthulhu is Their cousin, yet can he spy Them only dimly.” But different Lovecraft stories and characters use the term “Old Ones” in widely different ways. Cthulhu makes several cameo appearances elsewhere in Lovecraft’s fiction, sometimes described in ways that appear to contradict information given in “The Call of Cthulhu”. For example, rather than including Cthulhu among the Great Old Ones, a quotation from the Necronomicon in “The Dunwich Horror” says of the Old Ones, “Great Cthulhu is Their cousin, yet can he spy Them only dimly.”[19] But different Lovecraft stories and characters use the term “Old Ones” in widely different ways.
In At the Mountains of Madness, for example, the Old Ones are a species of extraterrestrials, also known as Elder Things, who were at war with Cthulhu and his relatives or allies. Human explorers in Antarctica discover an ancient city of the Elder Things and puzzle out a history from sculptural records: In At the Mountains of Madness, for example, the Old Ones are a species of extraterrestrials, also known as Elder Things, who were at war with Cthulhu and his relatives or allies. Human explorers in Antarctica discover an ancient city of the Elder Things and puzzle out a history from sculptural records:
“With the upheaval of new land in the South Pacific tremendous events began…. Another race–a land race of beings shaped like octopi and probably corresponding to the fabulous pre-human spawn of Cthulhu–soon began filtering down from cosmic infinity and precipitated a monstrous war which for a time drove the Old Ones wholly back to the sea…. Later peace was made, and the new lands were given to the Cthulhu spawn whilst the Old Ones held the sea and the older lands…. [T]he Antarctic remained the centre of the Old Ones’ civilization, and all the discoverable cities built there by the Cthulhu spawn were blotted out. Then suddenly the lands of the Pacific sank again, taking with them the frightful stone city of R’lyeh and all the cosmic octopi, so that the Old Ones were once again supreme on the planet….” With the upheaval of new land in the South Pacific tremendous events began…. Another race–a land race of beings shaped like octopi and probably corresponding to the fabulous pre-human spawn of Cthulhu–soon began filtering down from cosmic infinity and precipitated a monstrous war which for a time drove the Old Ones wholly back to the sea…. Later peace was made, and the new lands were given to the Cthulhu spawn whilst the Old Ones held the sea and the older lands…. [T]he antarctic remained the centre of the Old Ones’ civilisation, and all the discoverable cities built there by the Cthulhu spawn were blotted out. Then suddenly the lands of the Pacific sank again, taking with them the frightful stone city of R’lyeh and all the cosmic octopi, so that the Old Ones were once again supreme on the planet….[20]


Published on January 7, 2007 at 7:38 pm  Comments (46)  

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  1. Wow. Dick waving over imaginary stuff. How petty is this? Dam Harms can’t stand to see any dissent with anything that counters his narrow interpretation of the Lovecraftian universe, and Darrick Dishaw has a cult ripping off imaginary fictional monster and uses a cartoon character’s name as his alter ego.

    With all the real problems in our world, it’s pathetically lame when two intolerant, egotistical Lovecraftian “scholars” (and I use that term loosely) have nothing more to do than to wave their huge e-penis around because they obviously “know” the inner working of Lovecraft more than anyone else.

    • Is this a Dishaw puppet account?
      If not, that’s even more sad.

  2. Fortunately, with all the real problems in our world, Kitsune finds the time to libel random people on the Internet, obviously “knowing” their inner workings more than anyone else.

  3. Egads! Kitsune has uncovered my diabolical plan to discredit diversity by pointing out that two things are nearly identical!

  4. Thank you for the information. Now I won’t have to waste money on this book.

  5. People including Mr.Harms why don’t you all stop bickering about a persons beliefs and wheter or not the cribbed stuff,after all just how many writers out there are gulity of it,and stop poking at anther person’s beliefs they have as much of a right to worship Cthulhu,as I do the Cotton Candy Monster if I so decide to worship such a being.For Fracks sake people grow up its not like they are hurting “YOU”,unless the fact that they are being diffrent hurts you then if thats the fact”GROW UP”!

  6. Joseph,

    It’s clear you do not grasp what is going on here. Darrick has stated that having people ridicule him and his beliefs is a drain on his magical power. Thus, we can show no greater respect for him or his theology than by making fun of them relentlessly.

    • I grasp whats going on and am saddened by the immaturity going on.

  7. Dan, Venger Satanis has announced his second book: LIBER A:O, is coming out as a downloadable. After he ripped off Wiki, blatantly stole from Peter Carroll, and “borrowed” [without permission] material from Fritz Perls, Phil Hine, Virginia Satir, and Milton Erickson, can I assume you’ll check the new book as well and report any shenanigans?

  8. James,

    Thanks for letting me know. Can you provide any examples of those authors’ works turning up in Cthulhu Cult?

  9. Dan, there was a thread debunking Venger on the Key 64 website, but the site seems to be down. (http://www.key64.net/)

    I can probably quote direct examples, but it will take some time, as it’s been over a year since I compared and contrasted. Off the top of my head, Venger blatantly copied artwork from Peter Carroll’s books. If you go to Venger’s main site page (http://cultofcthulhu.net/index2.htm), the “Cult of Cthulhu” pic in the top left-hand corner with the face and tentacles is directly ripped off from a pic in Carroll’s LIBER NULL & PSYCHONAUT, page 168. Furthermore, Venger’s cover to his EMPIRE OF SATANIS roll playing game (http://www.cultofcthulhu.net/satanis-1a.htm) directly steals Carroll’s art from page 112 of the same book.

    He also takes lines from Phil Hine’s PRIME CHAOS and CONDENSED CHAOS regarding Paradim Evolution and the general description of Chaos Magic, and he “borrows” his text on Neuro-Linguistic Programming taking both from Hine and he tweaks an article by Fritz Perls, Virginia Satir, and Milton Erickson in that when Venger says “I have discovered three separate states of awakening” is nothing more than ripping off the three stages of NLP from an article by the aforementioned three, but just changing it from real-world situations to Lovecraftian adjectives.

    Venger also takes most of his fourth way descriptions from P.D. Ouspensky’s THE FOURTH WAY, and essentially uses G.I. Gurdgieff’s essays as his own; though I don’t have a copy of either handy, so I can’t make direct page correlations.

    Overall Venger doesn’t have a clue. He wants a Lovecratian world, but he’s too lazy to do it himself, so he steals a hodgepodge of ideas and prose from others and haphazardly tries to tie it all together with absurd notions. But the sad part is, Venger doesn’t understand the material he wants to embrace, and it’s painfully obvious when we see his words intermixed with someone else’s.

    • I agree with your last paragraph, Venger does not know all the history and signifigance of Cthulhu.

      On his “cult” forum I have come to know this because i posted things realiting to Donald Tyson’s Grimiore of the Necronomicon on his forum such as Cthulhu’s origins,Symbols of Lovecraft’s Old Ones,and even basic stuff and you know what, HE DID NOT KNOW ANYTHING THAT I POSTED!
      Do not be fooled by Dishaw he is a fraued his name even ryhmes with fraud!

    • He’s a thief on every level. Prior publishers of his works have had to pay out of pocket for licensing fees for artwork he claimed as his own. A word to anyone who handles his stuff: check the artwork sources first, and don’t listen to Dishaw (I mean, VENGER SATANIS … or whatever name he is going by these days)

  10. […] Cthulhu is a Lovecraft-inspired, civic-minded organization, best known for such public services as selling people Wikipedia entries, appointing representatives to be jerks on  Internet forums, and making up stories about their […]

  11. Please.

    Plagiarism is an academic crime. Do you think for a moment that if DD cared anything at all about his reputation as a writer that he would be so freely copying from an encyclopedia?

    What is ridiculous is the standards that some copy and paste authors are breeding – a new standard of anything goes on the internet, often sourced from the net, then re-packaged and sold for profit.

    how about some standards, some originality from occult authors? some style? This is why I like Dan Harms already. Just in reading his blog here and there I know that he is an academic and *reliable* source of information.

    Thank you for making these posts on this topic available.

    VenusSatanas

  12. In reply to Dan Harns from January 21, 2009 at 12:24 am ,look there is enough problems in this world without people bickering of religous/magickal beliefs.Plus to constantly downgrade another person because they cribbed something if childish.Writers have been cribbing for ages,why not do pick apart the writings of Anton LaVey I mean after all he pieced the Satanic Bible together from other peoples writings and up until his death would tell people it was 100% his work!

  13. PS:Your Encylopedia Cthuliana(might have misspelled it) Rules!I use the info from it in my Call of Cthulhu games!

  14. Joseph,

    How is this a religious debate? Darrick made a choice to do what he did, and – more importantly – to respond as he did when it was pointed out to him.

    If Darrick doesn’t want to be ridiculed, then maybe he should consider what he says and does more carefully.

    And I’m glad you find the book of use!

  15. Its a religous debate in that he is founding his own religion,persoanlly I have no idea how he replied to you,but i think the whole think has been blow out of wack,and both parties in this war need to be mature acting adults and just back off!

    • I’m not sure I understand. How is every debate Darrick gets into a religious debate simply because he wants to start his own religion? Further, if you don’t actually know what’s going on in this situation, how can you evaluate whether the responses are appropriate?

  16. Well I have taken the time since that post to become fully caught up on whats going on.And personally I think it’s a load of bull,why not just let the matter with him go?It would be the right thing for both sides to do in this matter just drop it and stop bickering.So theres similarites and such who cares??

  17. I find the debate and outrage over Dishaw’s plagiarism slightly amusing and ironic. Not to diminish the act – which is deplorable, but for a man who worships Old Scratch, worships Old Ones, and for a man claiming to be evil, is not plagiarism (or stealing, killing, lying for that matter) right up his alley as an “acceptable” or at least an expected behavior as a bad guy? I mean, he is “evil”, right? Why is anyone surprised an evil person would steal something?

  18. If someone wants to create their own religion, that’s their business (even if the beings in that religion were created as fiction by an atheistic materialist writer as alien beings confused for deities). BUT, if someone wants to rip off Wikipedia, claim that they wrote the material for themself, accuse those that point out otherwise of ripping him off, and then name-call those that point out otherwise, that person is an immature douchebag.

    Even though I’d kill anyone that plagiarized me, plagiarism to be evil is like telling little white lies to be good. It is a sign that one really doesn’t want to bother with their convictions. If he really doesn’t care enough about his beliefs to do more than rip off, he must not really care about his religion.

  19. If you really want to be taken seriously, don’t name yourself after the villain from the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon.

  20. And now this: the girl whose child Darrick “annointed” tells him he takes things way too seriously:

  21. How can people be defending Dishaw or acting like it’s not a big deal? He fucking copy and pasted directly from Wikipedia, then sold it, and then made up after-the-fact justifications. That’s pathetic. Plagiarism sucks. Ripping off the work of another person wholesale is never acceptable and it’s completely ridiculous that people defend him along the lines that “every author does it.” Being influenced by ideas and cribbing the odd turn of phrase is one thing; pasting paragraph upon paragraph identically from the same source is the worst kind of intellectual charlatanism. And oh yeah, Darrick has his own poetry about raping underage children on his website. Nice.

  22. I have to agree with Mayhem. Dan has done us all a service here.

  23. Darrick Dishaw is a power-hungry fool on an ego trip. He claims to be “The Way” but hes actually just a fool. Oh and I am disguisted by the fact that he stole from wikipedia. How original. What I am even more disguisted is that he could not admit it to the internet folks. He decided to wait a while, come up with a bunch of retarded explanations that rule out the possibility that he plagiarized that of course didn’t work, and I’m sure he came to realize this in the end, and so after some time, he came out with the truth. Darrick Dishaw, your a fuck-up, and if your reading this, go fuck yourself.

    Good Day

    Good day

  24. Ok, I… Hang on..

    James.

    Come with me. Just for a second.

    We are going to a magical land called 8th grade, it is an exotic land filled with conjunctions and apostrophes.
    Look yonder, come meet our dear friend Mr. Dictionary.
    Oh he’s frowning. Oh.
    Maybe… You should say hello to him later.
    James, listen to me. Everyone makes mistakes.
    It’s ok to make mistakes. Every post has them, it is normal and human and should be celebrated.
    But you make too many.
    It makes you look like you have special needs.
    You might say “nobody likes a grammar nazi”, but even the grammar U.N. would place sanctions on your shitty typing.
    And anyways, I hate you so it’s ok if you disagree.
    If there is one thing you take from our interaction here today it is this:
    The word is spelled disgusted. Not disguisted. If you have one really fat fucking mutant kielbasa middle finger on your right hand, I can understand how it might have happened. Twice. But that is why there is a backspace button. When you proofread, you save lives. And you life you save may be your own.
    Next week we will focus on “you’re.”

    Now… It’s pretty sad how many of the posts on Dan Harm’s wordpress are him posting under a gloriously retarded Soubriquet Rouge. He is (well, was) trying to cultivate some kind of negative sine wave against Venger, and he’s done it with the clever verve of a sassy 10 year old.
    Good show old chap.
    You’re about as charismatic as sugarless lemonade… Is it because I can Internet-Sense how angrily you used to argue about pogs when you were little? Or is it because you have the aire of someone who “just really didn’t feel like the Star Wars universe was INDIE enough” for them?
    It may be because your main presumption was that I give a fuck about someone plagiarizing wikipedia and then selling it. Haha. Fuck yes, I wish I had done it first. The only way you will ever get me to give a fuck about plagiarism is when it happens to me. I’ll hang on a tick while that registers. Uh oh! Trite buzzword alert! Hypocrite! But see, I don’t care. Come along with James and I, we will show you a new Way.
    Actually.. As illustrated, your self-righteous froth is perfect for the James-minded (term used tenuously) people of this world. (And apparently Dark Brooding Strippers. I see Venus Satanas and my first thought is.. IS there a kitchen in Hell?)
    Mm. I digress.
    There was a point here, but I now hate you all so much past the point that I can care. That is the new point. New point: hate.

    When I return, I want to see a pithy little post about the 4 (purposeful via laziness) mistakes I made (left) in this post and how I shouldn’t criticize others if I’m not perfect myself.
    Everyone sticks up for the retarded kids.
    Christ.

    • Great job, PaperTiger! I’m going to put this up on the main page later on.

    • “even the grammar U.N. would place sanctions on your shitty typing”

      I’m plagiarizing this.. just FYI

      • LOL! This thread is killing me!

  25. […] hateful feedback here, and we got an excellent post from “PaperTiger” over on the Darrick Dishaw-Wikipedia page.  Please be nice to him, as he’s new and doesn’t know how we do things. Now… It’s […]

  26. papertiger, come with me. We are going to a magical land called MLA. It is an exotic land filled with spacing and paragraphs. Look yonder, come meet our dear friend Mr. Grice. Oh! He’s angry. Oh!

    Maybe… you should say go to him now. See papertiger, everyone makes mistakes. It’s okay to make mistakes. Many posts have them, and it’s normal for internet shorthand where things are a bit more relaxed. Oh dear! I also made a mistake by not capitalizing your name as a proper noun! Silly me, denigrating you in such an unfortunate way. Mr. Grice will forgive me, but he won’t forgive you. At least not yet. Why? Because you’re a sinner. And sinners need to ask forgiveness from Mr. Grice, for you violated his sacred commandments:

    Thou shalt not violate the Maxim of Quality: Truth.

    Thou shalt not violate the Maxim of Manner: Clarity.

    Thou shalt not violate the Maxim of Relation: Relevance.

    And finally, Thou shalt not violate the Maxim of Quantity: Information.

    There are you four mistakes, for you violated them all. You’d do best to repent before the Grammar Devil takes you and you wind up in Sentence Writing Hell. But take heart, when you admit your mistakes and ask for forgiveness, Mr. Grice will grant you that. Because Mr. Grice is a just and kind lord, and even though you’re a sinner, you can be saved because Mr. Grice knows special people like you needed “Handwriting Without Tears” to get by, so you probably didn’t know any better.

  27. […] found guilty of plagiarism by noted scholar Dan Harms. The following link goes into more detail: https://danharms.wordpress.com/darrick-dishaws-cult-of-cthulhu-bible-and-wikipedia-the-similarities/ VENGER SATANIS: THE NEW AGE LEX […]

  28. […] response to the accusations of Plagiarism, Venger Satanis sent Warlock Asylum the following […]

  29. so DD copied shit-loads from wikipedia and sold it eh? Probably to busy working on his take-over-LHP speech and colouring in the CoC site. Kudos to PaperTiger (april 29 2010) for the most sarcastic and off-topic post ever.

  30. Hey, at least we know that this Darrick guy reads a lot! That’s one silver lining. Yay, literacy!

  31. Oh no Darrick Dishaw stole from Wikipedia; boo hoo hoo. Who gives flying fuck? Seriously, that’s where people draw their line? He named himself after a D&D character; big fucking deal!!! How about I say something to piss people off at me….Pictures of dead babies make me laugh. Pictures of dead n***ers make me laugh. Pictures of dead n***er babies make laugh until I piss myself. Fuck everyone; fuck all religions; and last but not least, fuck you Dan Harms I hope you choke to death you worthless n***er brained piece of shit!

  32. It appears like immaturity all the way round. I think Lovecraft would find this the Nth degree of stupidity. Of course, I’m certain he’d not agree with the plagiarism, but I speak now of the ruckus, uproar– the name calling.

    You know, there is a point to be considered about the real problems of this world- like someone pointed out earlier. Escapism is great, and all, but someone– anyone– look around at the world. Maybe that’s too much to ask; I suppose if anyone here is really of the mentality to venerate Lovecraftian beings, then they probably don’t give a damn about an unraveling world. But, anyone with a minute sense of intuition must see that this planet is heading towards critical mass. I would assume an honest-to-goodness occultist might actually have a degree of concern for our combined existence though.?

    Perhaps some perspective about what is really important should be in order. I personally do have a yearning for the Spirit- the infinite, as I believe Baudelaire might have called it. I guess that actual attention to the Spirit, among those who just want to be disturbing and sociopathic, is also a kind of pointless thing to expect; it’s akin to the casting of pearls before swine. Mind you, I do understand the state of misanthropy- as I have wrestled with feeling that way throughout my life. To make it one’s end all, and be all, is another thing.

    Well, as far as the plagiarism goes- such a blatant act of it is pretty sad. Then again, think of the people involved, and the point at which such bickering becomes absurd– the general immaturity of the whole deal.

  33. yeah, that guy is a total poser… I don’t know anyone in occult circles who actually takes him seriously.

  34. Mr. Harms,
    If the text in red did in fact correlate to the Wiki page you cite, and it was dated back to January 2007, it doesn’t appear to reflect that text now.

    Using a search for the text you cover, I did find it in (3) search hits.
    1. This blog
    2. Lovecraft Wikia (although similar, not verbatim)
    3. Cthulhu Cult Bible on Scribd

    How then, can you purport that Dishaw is plagiarizer if your link does not point to the text in question on the wiki page you cite?

    Perhaps this blog needs an update? Or perhaps you preserved screen captures of the original Wiki page, which seems to have gone under several updates since 2007.

    When addressing this “plagiarized” text, the original sources for said text should be linked. I believe this sorts out the hack issue. It appears that most commentators do not check Your sources before commenting, allowing you to do their work for them. It makes a difference when writing those shitty reviews on Amazon.

    When I first read the book way back when it was released, I noted some similarities to Wiki citations, but they were so few, that it did not discredit the entire work, at least for me. This blog appears to be detrimental when making a more critical review of this text, and it would behoove you to update it to have it reflect more accurate criticisms.

    One example:

    “Cthulhu (other spellings: Kutulu, Ktulu, Cthulu, Kthulhut, Thu Thu, Tulu, and many others) is a fictional entity createdby horror author H.P. Lovecraft. Cthulhu is often preceded by the epithet Great, Dead, or Dread”

    Appears on page 22 of Cthulhu Cult

    Upon searching the Wiki page you cited, I cannot locate such text with sources referenced.

    It also does not appear as featured on your blog on the
    Mythos page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_Mythos

    So, I’m at a loss here. Can you clarify?

    I’m often asked to point to the precise text that was allegedly plagiarized and haven’t been able to locate it. As noted, I do find similarities in that its apparent that he may have read the Wiki pages for generalized insight when trying to summarize what Cthullhu is to conventional HPL scholars (see page 20). In the context Dishaw is using Cthulhu, it would take initiation into the cult to truly grasp these concepts.

    • Cora’Sahn,

      I’ve updated the link above to go directly to the archived page in question as of January 8, 2007. Thanks for helping to improve this site!

  35. Ah. I see, I thought it might be something like that. You are usually pretty good at citing accurate material. I’ll have a look more closely and highlight those sections in the book for my own reference.

    For your personal satisfaction, I noted that:
    “Cthulhu (other spellings: Kutulu, Ktulu, Cthulu, Kthulhut, Thu Thu, Tulu[1]”

    Appears on pg 58 of the updated book I have in my library “The Cthulhu Mythos Encyclopedia” authored by you nearly verbatim on the:

    “This is an old revision of this page, as edited by 205.120.71.201 (talk) at 20:35, 8 January 2007. It may differ significantly from the current revision.” now linked.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cthulhu&oldid=99393652

    I’ll make an inquiry as to why the Cthulhu Cult Bible hasn’t been updated to reflect resources. I’ve worked on a German version this past year, and I for one cite references and credit authors.

    Thanks for the update.

    CS

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